This novel is the second part of the Sa arc. Don’t read this if you haven’t seen the anime series, because it’s the climax of the second half of the series.
The story starts with the scene of Chuushou (Enjun’s younger brother, grandfather of Sou, Saku, and Kokujun) discovering the slaughter of the main house, and Enjun kneeling, holding the dying body of the heir, who seemed to have liked him. Enjun never bothers to explain his actions or lack of them to anyone except for Eiki, so he just allows everyone to believe that he’s a murderer. It was a bloody age and the Sa Clan were generally considered a problem, so I guess the emperor was fine with it. Considering the Sa clan, it also makes sense he didn’t try to exonerate himself, too. It probably helped keep them all in line.
In the book, the conversation between Tei Yuushun and Sakujun is longer. (In the anime, it just seemed kind of random because we hardly knew who Tei Yuushun was, whereas in the novel he’s had quite a bit of exposition devoted to him.) We also have more explanation about Reishin’s actions, for the sake of Shuurei’s career, the only thing he’s going to do
As for Ensei’s shishou (teacher), he doesn’t like to be seen. Even though Yuushun has known him/known of him, he still hasn’t seen him, only his black-gloved hand. Master Nan (am not sure how to translate his name. You could also translate the Nan as Southern, I suppose) has also run up some debt and put it on Ensei’s tab (poor Ensei. XD), but Yuushun says he’ll help pay up. As in the anime, he knocks Yuushun out and somehow gets him out of there, after which Yuushun pretends to be Official “Yu Jun.” It’s kind of hard to disguise Tei Yuushun, though, because even though he’s not really that flashy, he does have trouble walking, and frankly, Ensei kind of messes up. (“Uh…. Why doesn’t Yu get up? Um. Uh. He can’t really… No! He doesn’t want to! Walk because he is um… very lazy! Yes, that’s it! Even though he tirelessly is doing paperwork 24/7.”) In the anime he’s just kind of randomly there because Tei Yuushun really isn’t that built up as a character.
I think Ryuuki’s competence as emperor is increasingly shown, even when he’s not on page; there’s a scene where they discuss how the emperor killed many birds with one stone by sending Eigetsu and Shuurei to Sa Province, and Shuurei notes that it will be difficult for her to keep her promise to Ryuuki and see him as “Ryuuki” and not as “the Emperor,” because with such a personage, feelings of love and friendship have a tendency to turn into awe. BTW, this is random, but also Sa Enjun did send letters to the mayors in Sa Province instructing them to gather evidence and stuff against the clan.
The conversation between Seiran and Shuurei is interesting. Seiran is extremely shaken by her saying that he is her second favorite person in the world. Exceedingly so. He has no idea how to respond to this and sits around feeling like a moron. I suppose this is one reflection of Seiran’s personality. Ensei says that his pride is higher than that of anyone he knows; I think it’s like in the opening to that Soseki book, “if you live by pride, you become confined.” Probably it is because, as Seiran reflects, that Ryuuki was the only person in the palace he truly loved, and who truly loved him, and he took on the role of “perfect elder brother,” supporting Ryuuki, and he tries to do the same to Shuurei, which is why he is adrift when she tries to support him. I can’t recall whether they go on to say this in the anime, but Shuurei reminisces about the death of her mother, and how possibly she avoids becoming closer to people because she doesn’t want to lose them.
As for Sakujun, Sub D and I were discussing whether the anime overplays his evil. As Sakujun and not as Senya, though, Sakujun in the book is pretty darn evil and creepy. Eh, I don’t think, though, that the extreme of evilness was intended to show he was wrong for Shuurei, because even had his crimes not been so extreme, he really doesn’t understand Shuurei and wouldn’t make her happy, especially with his jealousy, extreme childishness, and continual need to be entertained. Really, Sakujun compared to all the other semi-plausible suitors in the series just seems rather a wash. As a card-carrying villain fangirl I find it hard to respect him as a villain, also. Sure, he’s very effective, but his motivation is boring, because it’s…. boredom. I hope the villainy improves in the later books.
Speaking of Sakujun, there’s an amusing scene where Shuurei is telling the gang about Sakujun, and she mentions that he doesn’t put on his own shoes, to which Seiran is like “yeah, there are stupid people like that,” and Sai Shou is like “that’s such a huge waste of $$$; his servants must be happy to have such a freespending master,” and Eigetsu is like “huh? But wouldn’t it be faster to put them on himself?” And later Shuurei reveals that Sakujun shaves his legs or something, which prompts Ensei to offer a spirited defense of his beard, and then suddenly Sakujun pops up and declares that they are philosophical opposites. (Later Ensei says, when Eigetsu is surprised at how pretty Sakujun is, not to be fooled by him and that his face is the only thing good about him; and he shouldn’t follow him even if he says he’ll give him candy. Oh Ensei. XDDD) My memory of the anime is kind of bad; I remember a scene where Shuurei does go with Sakujun, but it didn’t include this much humor before it.
Even if Kokujun isn’t weak, I still thought it was dumb of him to go and decide the best course of action was to admonish his grandfather. So then he gets dumped in jail. It’s the drugs, but he then starts to think about what Sa Enjun was supposed to have done, killed off the main family. He then starts thinking it might be a good idea to kill off all the wrongdoers at the ceremony to choose a new clan head, and then someone offers him a sword and says he needs to try it out. So this makes it more plausible that later Kokujun believes he’s killed his father and grandfather, because he was already thinking murderous thoughts, and his mind is totally messed up, and he hardly even realizes what’s going on by the time Shunki comes to the rescue. Anyway, the general flow of events is quite similar. I hope we get to see Kokujun become a great leader, because he’s going to need to; as the book notes, Eiki is not immortal, so when she dies the rest of the clan is probably going to challenge him.
We get a bit more info on the incense: it seems that the perfumes were harmless individually, but if added together, could produce an addictive, mind-altering substance. But, since it required specialized knowledge, it seems likely that Sakujun’s grandmother and mother (who were from the main line and thus resented their husbands), who were wastrels, probably did not come up with the idea themselves. (Later, they’re scared of the police, and try to abscond with their bling, but end up drowning because of the weight. More angst for Kokujun.) However, again there is no hard evidence linking this to Sakujun. I can’t remember whether this was in the anime or not, but it seems beforehand, Seiran drank an antidote, and as for Sakujun, he spent his spare time building immunities to various poisons anyway (and plus, by this time, he was already dying) so he didn’t care anyway. As he dies, Sakujun reflects that although he thought he would become tired of Shuurei, he was wrong, that she was truly special to him, because the time they spent together in the mansion was filled with nothing but everyday things, but those still were fun. So, he is filled with regret, the first in his life, for totally being a nuisance to her. (DUH. This is why I say that Sakujun is an inept seducer, because honestly, he continually does things that he knows will piss Shuurei off and keep her from getting things she wants, yet he somehow thinks this will make him special to her?) Anyway, Sakujun thought that he would die without any regrets or lingering attachments, but now he is wrong. (HA HA. Okay, that was mean, although this makes me feel somewhat more sympathetic to Sakujun, because he realizes how dumb he has been, but it’s not like he feels bad about the other things he’s done).
And here’s something different: Shuurei goes off to get Eigetsu, but as Sakujun has these thoughts, a voice speaks to him, asking if him if he wants to live, and saying that it’s always been watching him, and that he is the most interesting. Then Sakujun seems to die, but I don’t think so, somehow.
(Actually, I’m curious. What if Seiran had become emperor, after surviving the war of the princes? Emperor Seien would have no reason to abstain from ruling, and Seien’s ability at both civil and military affairs was praised. The fact that the previous emperor’s reign was so bloody in the early stages does explain something quite curious, the fact that the imperial family seems to have no members except for the emperor and his children. Normally if the family has been ruling for generations, there are tons of uncles, aunts, cousins, etc. )
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A personal take here on Sakujun: The man has been sexually abused and has learned to prostitute himself to get what he wants. He pretty much continually offered her sex until she finally tells him why she doesn’t want sex. Notice how it doesn’t bother him to be sexually rejected by Shuuri. He’s not interested in the sex; it’s just a way of keeping her close to him. That is pretty strong evidence that he’s used to associating sex with affection.
Ah Sakujun…gawd, just stay dead. I swear goddamn deux ex machina ghost-spirit-sage-old-coots!
Personally, I think Sakujun is an important character on the principle that Shuurei needs some kind of wake-up call and being almost raped is prolly some kind of traumatic growing up experience…
Obviously, he has a psychosis problem. And psychotic characters are impossible to fully explain. Reason? The author takes liberties on the psychotic excuse to make the character do ‘evil’ and ‘terrible’ things for esoteric reasons which you actually DO study psychosis in people, DON’T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE!
That said, I’m still fine with Sakujun, only that he should stay dead. The fact that he’s going to come back a) lessens the impact of his ‘first death’ b) is going to turn him into a plot-point somewhere along the line.
This isn’t Dragonball though. 2nd time for a character like this is all he’s going to get. He’s going to either die, or turn into a minor character that you wouldn’t give a damn about (with no longer the Sa clan to support him, or anyone wanting to touch him with a 50 foot pole, and Shuurei being that much smarter to KEEP HER GODDAMN HORMONES IN CHECK WOMAN!).
Personally? I think a showdown between him and Ryuuki would be just too awesome…
…because you know Ryuuki won’t die. I mean, he might not even win (although, we don’t see Sakujun actually knowing how to fight, except he can apparently jump out of a window and not break his neck), but you know there’s going to be some Sephiroth moment and Sakujun would die anyway!
Huh… Actually, I got the impression that Sakujun never tried to rape Shuurei. He just tried to get her in bed, but took no for an answer. Hmm… I’d say on this point read the vol 11 summary.
I think we’re supposed to think that Sakujun just does these bad things because… he’s a bored rich kid. Yeah. But, his character did develop Shuurei’s character, so I don’t think he’s a waste of space as a character. I haven’t read the short story in which he does feature more prominently, so I really am not sure what the author is going to do with him from now on. I seriously don’t think he’s going to become a serious contender for Shuurei’s hand.
“But, since it required specialized knowledge, it seems likely that Sakujun’s grandmother and mother (who were from the main line and thus resented their husbands), who were wastrels, probably did not come up with the idea themselves. However, again there is no hard evidence linking this to Sakujun. I can’t remember whether this was in the anime or not, but it seems beforehand.” – this was in the anime.
Sakujun is probably quite mysterious as a character. I doubt he will come back. From what I’ve seen in the second series (anime), the Jyasenkyou cult’s leader’s name is Senya. Moreover, I think that Shuurei needed that wake up call but I still find it odd that she continuously treats Ryuuki as a child. There is no way she could have done so with Sakujun. It’s probably the familiarity which exists between Ryuuki and her which makes her treat him like that.
Mmm, uh… I would say for that part, read my summaries of volume eight. There’s also another short story which addresses that matter, but I haven’t read it yet.
Ryuuki really does behave in a more attempting-to-please way than Sakujun though. However, later in the novels, the relationship between Shuurei and Ryuuki seems far more like normal friends.
I honestly won’t put it past the author (goddamit I HAVE to remember her name!) to ultimately make it so Ryuuki and Shuurei don’t get together. It’ll be a nice ‘twist’ to the typical bishoujo main pairing ideal, and one that would be kind of refreshing, if a bit disappointing for the romantics (me included, but I can get over it XD)
Then again, Ryuuki obviously still holds a torch for Shuurei, and as for Shuurei…considering that I’d only be able to analyze her character if I could literally read the novel, I guess I can’t deduce anything on her relationship to Ryuuki at all, except that I thought in Vol. 12, she at least, was really quite distressed when she saw Ryuuki unconscious (presuming he was hurt/dead?).
Btw, I just saw a pretty funny scene in Episode 35 XD Regarding Ryuuki and Shuuei. The scene that is so absolute BI X3 Ryuuki ‘holding back’ and ‘controlling himself’ for Shuurei’s sake XDDDD
But honestly, is there any homosexual overtones between Shuuei and Ryuuki in the novel? Besides of course that he’s a close adviser and friend, but personally, I just think there’s unresolved tension. Well, not necessarily unresolved, but there IS tension IMO.
I really have no idea. I think it violates the formula, but if it’s the last book, she can then say to the fans, nyah nyah, I can do whatever I want! The other thing, is that it’s not like she has introduced any highly plausible rivals to Ryuuki, romantically speaking.
Honestly, I’ve read the novels, and they’re quite evasive. Read the volume eleven summary, the part where Shuurei refuses to define her feelings for Ryuuki. As I see it, she may like him that way, but she isn’t going to, for various reasons, try to get with him.
It depends what you consider homosexual overtones? If you want evidence to write yaoi fanfic, by all means, there is a lot: more than enough. A lot of the things Ryuuki and Shuuei say can definitely be taken in that light, and are in fact, easier to take in that light, to the point where Ryuuki remarks on it. But, actually, because they remark on it, and it’s kind of done knowingly, speaking personally, I read their relationship as almost brotherly (Shuuei at one point says that Ryuuki is more like his little brother than Ryuuren), or as a devoted lord-retainer relationship. (Just my personal interpretation.) So it’s really… yeah, I think the author is definitely making it intense to the point that you can have that kind of interpretation, though. (man, I really must work on vol 12)
Oh, it isn’t for yaoi. But I’ve been thinking that there should be some indication of Ryuuki’s bisexuality in the novels, as a reminder at the very least, and most likely it would be around Shuuei.
And Shuurei refusing to define her feelings for Ryuuki? I don’t know, from your summary, I actually accept her explanation, which I take it is basically telling Ryuuki, “I’m sorry, but we can still be friends!”
That’s a saaaad situation, but anyway, I think she defined it quite well. Basically, that her feelings regarding Ryuuki is more of a ‘little brother’.
All things considered, since Ryuuki obviously has a ‘surrogate mother/sister’ complex around Shuurei anyway, that really isn’t surprising. Doesn’t help that, you know, her first impression of you is that of a gay man which pretty much nips any romantic feelings on her part in the bud anyway.
Honestly, why do guys think that’s a good idea *rolls eyes*. And yes, I’ve come across a real life example of a situation like this, if you can believe that (thankfully, it didn’t happen to me, but a guy friend of mine, who is excessively girly but pretty much swears to be straight, tried this same stunt on a girl he likes. Idiot, absolute IDIOT.)
Well, as far as I can figure out, currently from Ryuuki’s side, the closest he comes to being interested in anyone but Shuurei is Jyuusan-hime.
Eh, from as I see it, it’s like even if she *did* like Ryuuki that way, and I think it is interpretable that she partially does, she still isn’t going to marry him. So it doesn’t really seem to be a question of whether she loves him that way or not, really, but a question of what kind of life she wants; so I tend to think that even if she did, she would still renounce it.
I just really don’t know what the author is going to do. A lot of it has to do with stuff that is so far really unclear in the plot. If it weren’t a light novel, I would think that it might end with Ryuuki/Jyuusan-hime, and Shuurei becoming a later Prime Minister of Ryuuki’s.
I’m not saying she doesn’t have romantic feelings for Ryuuki, just that they were not developed as far as they could have on their first meeting.
Also, exactly how does it being a ‘light novel’ define its direction? I’m not sure, because I’ve never considered any other Japanese novel, so I’m not sure of how they class and define ‘em.
Strangely I like the idea of Jyuusan hime x Ryuuki and Shuurei being Ryuuki’s Prime minister and perhaps his lover :D (not unheard off ) lol
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